NSCDC Commandant Obafaiye Shem became massively popular, thanks to his ‘Oga
at the top’ interview with Channels TV.
In a recent interview Obafaiye Shem spoke about ’Oga at the top’,
his new posting and even marriage.
Excerpts:
What is your assessment of the security situation in Ibadan and Oyo
State in general?
The security situation in Oyo State is relatively peaceful and I must tell
you that the synergy among the security agencies here is very superb. We relate
well; the Commissioner of Police carries me on well and indeed refers to me as
his brother. I do the same to him. Anything that affects one affects all.
At a time, there was a clash between my men and the police. Immediately I
told him about it, he promptly took it up and resolved it. My bosses were
amazed. That’s the level of rapport that exists between us.
How would you compare the work situation in Lagos to the one in Oyo
State?
Lagos is very riotous. What I am trying to say is that there is so much
stress in Lagos State when compared with a state like Oyo. Oyo State is a more
peaceful state. Ibadan is particularly peaceful. Life here cannot, in any way,
be compared with life in Lagos. But just as God backed us up in Lagos, He is
still doing the same here in Ibadan. The way He made me succeed in Lagos, is
the same way He has started making a success of my work here in Oyo State.
My achievements have been positive. It has always been my desire to do my
best as much as possible on this job and wherever I find myself, and God has
been good to me. This is what I always tell my subordinates. Since all of us
cannot be president; we cannot all be Commandant General, we can all contribute
our quota to the growth and development of Nigeria in whichever corner we find ourselves.
This is what I always tell my subordinates. I always tell them that if they
are cleaners, they should clean well. The Bible instructs us to do our job as
unto the Lord. We should do all with the fear of God. That is, if no one is
watching you, God is. My wish is to do my best, to leave a good legacy behind
for my generation and everyone coming after me.
Would you rather work here or in Lagos?
Our job is with the federal government. So, it is not about where anyone prefers,
it is about where we are posted to. And the rule is that we must be ready to
work anywhere; we must adapt to whichever environment we find ourselves. It is
a service and we must do it well at all times. There is nowhere I cannot work.
You were posted to Ibadan shortly after the “My Oga At the Top”
interview. How about your family? Did you move them down to Ibadan or they are
still in Lagos?
They are here. They joined me barely a week after I resumed here. It makes
the job easier because there won’t be any divided loyalty.
What are the challenges of your job?
Life is a risk and so is every job. Our own job is no exception. Even the
Army, advanced as they are, they still have challenges. In our own case, we are
making do with what the federal government has been giving us. We have men on
ground and with good leadership, we are showing commitment and doing well. God
has been very faithful. In the course of our job, we arrest tankers with arms
and ammunition among other major things. We have challenges, but they are
minimal.
How would you rate the success of the NSCDC so far?
Am I not too small to rate the NSCDC? Generally, I would say, of all the
agencies, ours is the closest to the masses. We live with them, interact with
them and we have a good intelligence gathering network. We are doing well in
all ramifications. On some different occasions, we are the first to get to
scenes of fire incidences. In the area of disaster management, we help manage
situations, rescue and rehabilitate. In the area of preventing the activities
of pipeline vandals, we are also doing well. If I am to give a mark, I would
give 75%. That is an A.
As security officer, what tips would you give to individuals for
safety?
We must observe personal security in our homes. It would be wrong to switch
on your light before leaving home; people should be conscious of strangers
around where they live; they need to call the attention of neighbours if they
see strange faces; they should put bulbs in their surroundings to illuminate
the environment. I would also advise that you don’t just leave your gate open.
Your security man should be registered with a security outfit so that they will
be able to capture his data.
This is to enable them to trace him. It is risky and not ideal to just
employ somebody just because he claimed to have worked as security officer in
some place before. He might have been sacked for one misdemeanor or the other
before or may even be telling lie just to feed himself. He may not be able to
handle the job and you may end up suffering for this at the end of the day. And
for those who employ house helps, they must be careful of who they leave their
children with. A lot of underground work need to be done to have these kids
placed in safe hands.
What is your opinion about the Channels Television interview that
brought you instant fame?
I have nothing much to say other than to bless God for everything. I thank
God for all that happened; I thank God for my boss, his support and love. He is
a good boss and I appreciate him. As far as I am concerned all things work well
for those who love God and in all things, the Bible says we should praise God.
The people that thought they were going to ruin me did not know that they
would end up in announcing my destiny. In the history of humanity, there had
never been any human being that had instant fame like I did especially in a
case that was meant to end negatively. My brother-in-law in London is even so
excited about the incident that he promised to assist me make big money out of
this supposed mess. He had already handed the matter to an agency over there to
trade mark “Oga at the Top.” But I just asked him to forget it. There is no
need for that.
Many of my class mates are in top positions in Nigeria currently, yet, they
said I did not go to school. I can mention a lot of them here, including the
Attorney General in Lagos State, Ipaye.
But why should I do all that. All the same, I give all the praises to God.
It was not the first interview I would be having with them (Channels Tv). After
that interview we shook hands and I even gave them my complimentary card. I
could see that they were not really cheerful. If there was any effect, it was
on them and not me. It was the same day I met with Governor Fashola of Lagos
State.
Theirs took place in the morning and I met Governor Fashola later in the day.
Some people believed they were up to something, but I did not know. I was only
being careful with words as a security officer. We apply caution in all that we
say and do. It was a live programme, the whole world was watching us, so, I did
not want to be too free.
But like I said, I thank God for everything. I blame nobody for anything; I
see everything as an act of God. They believe they would use it to destroy my
destiny but God turned everything around for me, for the better.
How did your family take the development?
The day of the interview, 16th of March, 2013, was the day my father was
buried. It was as if it was designed to destablise me on the day of the burial
of my father, but it was not so. It was three or four days after that they
apologised and said it was not meant to embarrass me.
Channels felt bad because it backfired. Anybody that wants to go for an
interview in Channels will be very skeptical now and henceforth. I just felt it
was my time for divine announcement, so I did not take it the way they thought
I would take it.
In fact, when I saw the T-shirt, I wanted to buy one. Some had thought that
my transfer to Ibadan was a demotion, but they are wrong. It is not. They also
claimed that my wife went to Channels over the issue. The question I asked was,
to do what? She did not. The whole thing has only turned around to be God’s
glory in my life.
What is your philosophy of life and how did it apply in the case of
“My Oga At The Top” case?
My philosophy of life is to impact positively on this generation. I want to
leave a legacy, a good and worthwhile legacy behind that will not make my
family live or walk in fear when I am gone. I want to sustain my good name; and
that is what I preach to my staff every day.
I tell them to be open-minded; be determined; do what you will do with your
best ability whether people are there or not. Note that there are people
watching you and your work will speak for you when you are not there. This is
what I always tell them.
What is the lesson to be learnt in your “Oga At The Top” issue?
Everyone should identify a lesson out of the whole saga.
What is your childhood ambition and where were you born?
My dream was to become a military person. In the village, they called me a
Soldier because of the way I walk. Talking about where I was born, I was born
in Ayetoro Kiri in Kabba/Bunu local government area of Kogi State.
What influence do your parents have on your life as an adult?
My parents are very hard working and well-disciplined. My father was a
farmer and made us to work on the farm as early as 4 a.m. and wouldn’t come
back until 10 p.m. They were very strict. My father was not that rich, but he
was determined and loved his children to go to school. The two of them are dead
now but they left a good memory of themselves behind. And you know like it used
to generally be in those years, we lived a communal life.
My father lived a very selfless life. He wished all other children that were
not even his own the best that he wished for we his children. He wouldn’t let
any child that he found at home when others were in school be. That earned him
the name- “Baba ki lo n se n le.” He would ensure that the reason why the child
was not in school got fixed as much as possible.
This and others we learnt as we grew up. He taught us the essence of
hardwork. He was not rich, so, we had to work on the farm very hard to get
money to take care of our school fees. My mother was also hard-working.
She was a strong-willed woman who was a popular garri maker of her time. She
died in 2009 while papa died in February 2013. They taught us to be solution
givers and we thank God that we are on that path. He believed in the power of
cane. I remember a time that I and one of my brothers went to work in the farm
and we covered so much ground and without food. When he came, we thought he was
going to be excited and commend us. He, instead, went wild when he found out we
did all that we did on empty stomach. He caned us in anger.
Would you recall any of your childhood pranks?
I was a serious student in UNILAG and so wouldn’t joke with my books. I came
from a poor family and I didn’t want to disappoint my parents and myself. I
think I entered the female hostel twice throughout my undergraduate days. My
success was more important and I wouldn’t want anything to distract me.
How would you describe village life?
It was a communal life. People do things together, but in the city, they
want to do it by themselves. There were good and healthy foods in the village.
Everything was expressly from nature, the air, water, vegetables and all. Even
herbs came handy for ailments that would have cost a fortune in the city. City
life has caused crises to marriages whereas this is not common in the village.
There is a huge difference between life in the village and in the city.
What attracted you to your wife?
She is beautiful and a good singer. She was leading a chorus at a crusade
when I first saw her. She is an evangelist.
How would you describe marriage?
Marriage is a beautiful thing. That is the way I would describe it.
How do you unwind?
I am married to my job and my wife complains about that. When I am not
working, I am in church. The last time I went on leave was in 2009.
What is your general advice for people?
Let every individual do his work as ordained by God, believing that he or
she is accountable at the end of the race. People should be contended with what
they have; they should use all their strength to do whatever is given to them
and wait on God for reward. People should put their trust in God and not in
human beings. Today, we have so many people derailing because they expect so
many things from human beings. Wait for God at the appointed time. Do what you
are doing with the fear of God